What does the government do with the already installed HBO. Do I need to register HBO in the traffic police

A quest of 5 points and + 5,000 rubles to the cost of installing gas on a car. This is the end of the story with the registration of HBO in the traffic police.

So, today we can cautiously say that 10 months of frank mess with the registration of HBO in the Russian traffic police are over.

Sergey Chipurin, Deputy Head of the Department of Technical Supervision of the GUOBDD of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, put an end to this story. During the GASSUF-2016 exhibition held in Moscow, he publicly spoke to installers and sellers of HBO. He gave explanations on the very procedure for registering a car with gas, answered questions from the audience and even gave his work phone number - this is in case the local traffic police still do not know how to register LPG.

For those interested in the details, here is Sergei Alexandrovich's explanation.

The main idea: the registration procedure has been developed, implemented and it is the same for all subjects of the Russian Federation.

In practice, those who decide to install gas-balloon equipment on a car act as follows:

1. You need to contact the HBO installation service. The service should not be underground, but legal, that is, certified. Most of these services have already entered into cooperation agreements with laboratories accredited to conduct preliminary technical expertise, and have the right to act on behalf of the laboratory itself. That is, the HBO installation service will inspect your car, issue a Preliminary conclusion of the laboratory, provide documents necessary forms and send it for the first inspection to the traffic police.

2. In the traffic police, the car owner announces his intention to convert the car to run on gas and writes a statement asking for permission to convert. Provides a preliminary conclusion that conversion to work on gas is possible on this car and from a technical point of view will not worsen its performance, and also complies with the traffic rules and TR TS 018 standards. Demonstrates his car without HBO to technical supervision employees. The car without LPG will be photographed.

3. According to the Traffic Police Law, applications for re-equipment of the vehicle must be considered within a month. In practice: after writing an application and showing the car to the MREO, the car owner does not wait a month, but returns to the car service, installs HBO. Further, the car service provides the client with the package of documents necessary for its part. These are: Protocol on the conversion of the vehicle to run on gas, Conclusion - declaration of compliance with TR CU 018, a copy of the gas installer's certificate for work, copies of certificates for equipment according to TR TS 018.

4. The owner of an already converted car is sent for inspection. When passing the technical inspection, the documents will indicate the presence of the LPG itself on the car, and the curb weight of the car will also be changed. During the inspection, the car with HBO installed will be photographed again.

5. Having passed the inspection, the car owner goes to the traffic police, taking with him all the documents issued at the car service and inspection. Writes an application for making changes to the TCP and a certificate of registration of the vehicle in connection with changes to the design.

The whole procedure, taking into account the costs of a preliminary technical examination, the payment of state duties, costs about 5-6 thousand rubles. That is, in some cases, registration will increase the cost of installing HBO by 30-40 percent.

Was there a need to introduce this complex and, in general, dreary process of registering vehicles with LPG?

But nevertheless, many practitioners - those who convert vehicles to gas, agree that something similar - registration of LPG, with a clear division of responsibility for the conversion process itself, is overdue. Gas is an additional fuel system on a car. It is safe, but subject to the rules of conversion. And who can vouch for the correctness of the conversion in the underground garage by a person who does not have the necessary qualifications? Personally, in my life I have seen plastic gas pipelines stretched through the interior of a car, and household cylinders rolling around the trunk, and many other amazing ways to install HBO. tragic stories The use of HBO for the most part is reduced precisely to the violation of the rules of installation and operation. Registration, I hope, will cut off do-it-yourselfers and experimenters in the installation of gas. Of course, legal services will be more attentive to the process of selecting components and materials used for the installation of HBO. From the photographs taken at the technical inspection, you can always return to the question - what was installed, how it was installed and compared with what the gas installer declared in the Conversion Protocol.

There must be more order, and I hope that we are moving towards civilization.

Perhaps someone got the impression that I stand up for the approved procedure for registering HBO in the traffic police and consider it optimal? Of course not. Stupidity and the desire to "milk" drivers abound here. What is the difference between VAZ-21070, 1998, registered in Vladivostok, and VAZ-21070, 1998, registered in Kaliningrad? Why are two car owners who wished to install gas on the same car forced to prove to the state twice that it is technically possible to install gas on this car? Is it not possible to create single base, in which a specific car model will be entered after once it has passed the Preliminary examination "for compatibility" with LPG? Of course, this is not so profitable, but it would be with care for its citizens. The question is open.

A start. And hopefully eventually registration will take the form of a civilized and not so expensive process. End of story? - put a question mark.

The issue of registering vehicles converted to run on gas in the traffic police of Russia worried (and still cares) many. The registration procedure looked vague, confusing and varied greatly in different regions of the country.

Registering gas equipment on a car was required before. At the same time, no changes were made to the technical passport of the vehicle. Until now, the whole procedure boiled down to the fact that the car owner had to present two certificates to the traffic police: form 2A and form 2B. These certificates, in theory, should have been issued by the HBO installer. It was also required to fill out several applications, run from window to window. All this was not simple - a kind of quest according to the rules that no one knew and did not understand thoroughly. However, with a certain assertiveness and determination of the car owner, he could legalize gas equipment on a car. Now appeared new law and everything became simple and clear. Simple - because there is a law, and it is clear that no one knows how to implement its norms.

Since January 2015, the Technical Regulations have come into force Customs Union No. 18 "On the safety of wheeled vehicles". And now this document has become Starting point in question - the passage of technical inspection by a car with installed gas equipment.

Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, if anyone does not know, have joined the Customs Union - that is, they have created a single space in which goods and services move without restrictions. At the same time, the countries assumed obligations to unify the regulatory and technical base for these goods and services - to bring everything to a single standard. These standards became the Technical Regulations. They are being developed one by one and gradually put into action, falling like snow on the heads of ordinary citizens of this same Customs Union. Technical regulation No. 18 came into force, as already mentioned, on January 1, 2015.

Technical regulation No. 18 is a wide document. It stipulates many points unconditionally related to the safety of wheeled vehicles. And whoever wants to get to know him in detail can easily find him on the Internet - a document in free access. We will concentrate on the analysis of the situation associated with the use of gas equipment in a car.

This Technical Regulation has Appendix No. 9: "Requirements for individual changes made to the design of the vehicle." And in this appendix, paragraph No. 8 just says that the installation of gas equipment refers to changes in the design of the vehicle:

Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan have been bound by international agreements and until now to comply with the UNECE Regulations. In a relationship gas equipment, these are Rules No. 67 - for liquefied gas and Rules No. 110 - for natural gas. Almost all gas equipment sold in Russia complies with them, as evidenced by the corresponding marking applied to the HBO elements. And one could assume that not immediately, of course, over time, HBO installers would solve the problem - by presenting certified copies of certificates to the relevant authorities ... But the Technical Regulation also requires compliance with 115 UNECE rules - - for the type of gas cylinder system as a whole for the corresponding family of vehicles funds.

Let's turn to chapter V (Conformity assessment) point 4:

Will changes be made to the technical passport of the vehicle after the installation of HBO? Has the procedure for making changes been developed? Every car enthusiast who wants to install HBO must submit his car for a preliminary technical examination? And then again for examination after the installation of HBO? Who should conduct this examination? What is its order? And what will happen to cars that were converted to run on gas before the entry into force of Technical Regulation No. 18?

It remains to wait until the situation clears up, because now everything looks as if the state has decided once and for all to bury the idea of ​​​​using alternative fuels.

Implemented almost every year legislative acts and updated rules. Therefore, every car owner should definitely know about them. One of these innovations is the design of HBO. If before that the registration of equipment for the operation of transport on gas was carried out without any specific changes in the technical passport for vehicles, then already in 2017, in order to obtain required documents for this equipment, expertise and a bunch of references are needed.

Basic requirements for registration of a gas-cylinder installation in 2017

2015. TR EAEU 041/2017 started working this year. This Regulation deals with pressing issues of vehicle safety. In paragraph 8 of App. 9 clearly reflected all important rules registration of vehicles subjected to re-equipment.

Sequencing

Each car owner who decides to equip his car with a gas-cylinder installation should familiarize himself with the list of documents that will be required to legalize gas-cylinder equipment and find out where documents can be made for LPG.

It is very important to find out about this even before purchasing a gas installation in order to determine your financial capabilities ahead of time. And the installation and design of the HBO system is documented in several stages:

Getting help;

An expert opinion that it is technically possible to install a gas installation on a specific car model.

Is it necessary to draw up documents for installing HBO on a car in the traffic police?

Yes, that is the next step. Having waited for the conclusion from the service station, the owner of the vehicle, after permission from the traffic police, installs the equipment.

As soon as the equipment is installed at the service station, the car owner receives a certificate, which is a confirmation that the gas-cylinder system is safe and installed in full accordance with the requirements. Next, you should register with the traffic police all the design changes that appeared in the car after installation.

List of documents

It should be noted that according to the updated rules, when installing HBO, all design changes must be made to the vehicle registration certificate, so the register of necessary documents has increased significantly.

What documents for gas equipment are required to register a vehicle in 2017?

HBO in the traffic police in 2017 should be like this:

Vehicle inspection coupon or diagnostic card;

Expertise findings;

Passport of the car owner;

Vehicle registration certificate;

Registration certificate for the car;

Document on the eligibility of owning the vehicle;

Application for a certificate;

Certificates with form No. 2a - No. 2b, which are issued to the owner of the car after the gas equipment is installed;

Photocopies (copies) of certificates;

Receipt to confirm payment of state duty.

In what order should the documents be processed?

Registration of a gas-cylinder installation in the traffic police is a very tedious procedure. Since we already know what specific documents are required for the installation of a gas-cylinder installation in 2017, then each stage should be considered separately.

How to get an expert opinion?

It is the technical examination of the vehicle for the installation of a gas device - important point when modernizing the fuel system of a car. It is after it that HBO can be installed legally. In order to obtain an expert opinion, you will need to find a service station that has a certificate for connecting and further maintenance of this type of equipment. So, before installing a gas installation on a car in 2017, it becomes necessary to prepare it for a preliminary examination.

At the service station, they will inspect the car and give a conclusion whether it is safe to run on gas. Then its owner will be issued a conclusion, which he will have to present to the traffic police.

Statement to the State traffic inspectorate on structural changes in the car

In order to get the “go-ahead” to the traffic police for the installation of HBO in 2017, you should fill out an application in the form there and report a change in the design of the machine. The owner of the car must have:

Conclusions of technical expertise;

Vehicle registration certificate;

Passport;

Power of Attorney, if this is done by an authorized representative.

HBO installation

Having received permission from the traffic police to re-equip the car, you can begin the installation of gas equipment. In order to avoid problems, it is advisable to contact only certified centers, where, upon completion of work, you can learn all the papers required for subsequent registration.

Due to the constant rise in gasoline prices, many motorists are increasingly thinking about installing gas equipment (HBO). This can be done on any type of vehicle. It is clear that this will require certain expenses, but given that gas is almost twice cheaper than gasoline, the costs will pay off very quickly. This is clearly seen if the vehicle (V) is used in commerce.

• how to properly and legally re-equip your car;
• whether it is necessary to register changes;
• Is there any punishment for the installation and operation of HBO.

Conversion procedure

The fifth chapter of the Technical Regulations (TR), which is adopted in the Customs Union, provides for a preliminary technical examination (TE) on the possibility of reconstructing a car. After the changes, a safety inspection is expected.

In the course of these works, it is checked whether the vehicle will comply with the TR after the reconstruction and whether its safety will deteriorate. Please note that the work consists of two stages, which are carried out before and after changes to the car.

Thus, before installing HBO, it is necessary to obtain a "permission" and only then carry out work. The referral to a fuel cell is taken at the MREO traffic police and carried out in certified companies. The installation of HBO is also carried out by specialized structures that issue the appropriate certificates. The same firm that conducted the initial review is doing the security check.

After going through all the stages of work with the relevant acts, you need to contact the traffic police again to make changes to the documents on the car.

At first glance, it may seem that the HBO installation procedure is rather confusing and time-consuming. In life, this looks quite meaningful and does not take very long. But your car can now be operated without any claims and you can not be afraid of fines.

Who is not required to undergo an examination

The fourth section of the fifth chapter of the TR answers this question as well. Vehicles may not be tested if:

• Components are installed that are designed for this particular type of car, as evidenced by the documentation for operation. Components must have documents on the conduct of the relevant checks.
• Serial changes were made on the basis of developed and agreed design documents and an appropriate assessment was carried out.

In other words, if the plant where the car is produced also produces models with LPG, then there is no need to check the components and the equipment itself as a whole.

Required documents

In order to register a vehicle with new equipment in the traffic police, you need to obtain a technical documentation report and apply for a change in technical documentation.

The following documents are required to obtain a TE certificate:

1. original and copy of the application to the traffic police;
2. documents confirming the registration of the car;
3. original and copy of the TCP;
4. documentation of the ownership of the car;
5. passport or other document certifying the registration of the owner.

To change the technical documentation after the conversion, you will need additional:

1. application for passing the test in the testing laboratory;
2. certified documentation for the new HBO;
3. a photocopy of the certificate of the company that was engaged in the installation of GO.
4. diagnostic card;
5. list of work carried out;
6. photos of the car before and after reconstruction;
7. receipt for payment of the check after re-equipment of the car.

Registration price

Despite the increase in the cost of registration necessary papers, car owners continue to install HBO.

This is what the price of re-registration of a car looks like:

Frequency of checks

The presence of HBO provides for periodic monitoring of serviceability constituent parts. This is, first of all, checking gas cylinders. The frequency of the check is specified in the passport and is carried out authorized bodies. After such events, new certificates are issued that guarantee the safety of the equipment. Usually they indicate the timing of the future inspection. As a rule, control is carried out once every two years and is carried out by the same structure that established the SSS.

The use of "expired" cylinders is strictly prohibited. Do not allow them to be incorrectly fastened. Gas leakage must be excluded. All components of gas equipment must have certificates and inspection reports.

Disadvantages of the new registration procedure

As already mentioned, according to the new procedure, when registering a converted car, it is required to provide photographs before the reconstruction. This provision does not take into account that in our country there are already a large number of vehicles that have long been used by gas equipment. Now, in order to make its use legal, you need to dismantle the former HBO, take a photo, then go through the initial examination, obtain permission and install the equipment again. Given that the dismantling costs about four thousand rubles, new installation will cost the same amount, plus the cost of expertise and security checks, then registration with the traffic police "will cost a pretty penny." Probably, not all motorists will want to return to gas fuel again. Thus, by putting things in order with the use of HBO, the traffic police reduces the use of gas equipment. This is also evidenced by statistics.

Existing fines

Punishment is provided not only for those who installed and use HBO, but also for those who violate the rules of operation. The latter include:

• Mismatch of the characteristics indicated on the cylinder and in the passport data;
• The date of the last check is missing or expired;
• Changes in the design of the car are not agreed with the relevant authorities.

The list of violations and the amount of the fine are stipulated in Article 12.5 of the Code of Administrative Offenses. Usually such a punishment is 500 rubles.

HBO check postponed until 2018: true or not?

IN Lately information is widely circulated that the verification of HBO was postponed until 2018. The traffic police of Russia did not confirm such information.

So, on January 1, 2015, the Technical Regulations of the Customs Union "On the safety of wheeled vehicles" came into force. In its development, a number of regulatory documents were adopted.
The last document is Guidelines on the organization of verification of compliance with the requirements for vehicles in operation in the event of changes in their design” was adopted on November 20, 2015.
In 2016, an order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia is being prepared for publication, establishing the procedure for providing a public service for issuing a permit to make changes to the design of the vehicle and issuing a certificate of compliance of the vehicle with the changes made to its design with safety requirements.
What has fundamentally changed.
1. The installation of HBO has become a change in the design of the vehicle, which will require additional cash (10,000 -18,000 rubles) and time (a month or two) costs from the car owner.
2. Making changes to the design will require compliance with a red tape and a multi-stage procedure (an application to the traffic police, two examinations: before installation and after, technical inspection, etc.), as well as the preparation of a large number of documents.
3. The installation of HBO by non-certified centers is excluded, since when registering, the set of documents also includes an Application-Declaration of the service center.
4. It has been established that if changes are made to the design of the vehicle without the permission of the State Road Safety Inspectorate, then the operation of such vehicles is prohibited, respectively, violators face not only a fine, but also a parking fine.
5. Dismantling a legally installed and registered HBO is also a design change.
6. Forms 2a and 2b are not provided for by the new technical regulations (although these forms are still required both in the traffic police and during the examination). Instead, it is provided for obtaining an Application-Declaration of a certified center - at the stage of passing an examination and submitting documents to the traffic police and a Certificate of compliance of the vehicle design with changes made to its design with safety requirements, as well as making changes to the TCP and reissuing a vehicle registration certificate - after passing all registration procedures.
7. Periodic testing of gas-cylinder equipment is provided for (the frequency coincides with the frequency of certification of cylinders: LNG - 2 years, CNG - 5 years) with the issuance of a certificate in the prescribed form.
8. It is planned to issue a Certificate of Compliance of LPG equipment with changes made during its repair (replacement of a reducer and / or cylinder), the rules for issuing this certificate by certified centers have been approved.
9. A single form of a passport for a gas cylinder of a wheeled vehicle and the rules for issuing it have been approved. The passport is issued on a sheet of A4 format and for cylinders of all types and volumes.
10. The rules for filling out the form of a certificate of conformity of a vehicle with changes made to its design with safety requirements have been approved.
How will this affect motorists and other stakeholders?
(after the introduction public service and / or the “fas” command will be received)

For owners of cars with previously installed HBO.
Your choice:
1. Continue to take risks and drive without documents, or with existing old documents, hiding the VZU, cylinder at the posts, removing the cylinder, gearbox and nozzles during maintenance or registration actions and then putting them back. And then - act according to the situation.
2. Put the HBO in order, replace or inspect the cylinder, restore or redo the installation documents (installers do this, since the law does not prohibit installing used equipment) and, if necessary, try to prove to the traffic police that you installed everything legally, know nothing about the new rules. If they start to press hard, go for registration according to the new rules.
3. Remove HBO and abandon it and, accordingly, save money;
4. Remove the equipment and reinstall it according to the new rules (with expertise, etc.).
For car owners who plan to install HBO
1. Calculate if you drive a lot by car, and the additional registration costs (10,000-12,000 rubles) will relatively quickly be covered by the savings from switching to gas, then do not hesitate and arrange everything according to the new rules. This registration is made once for the entire life cycle of the vehicle.
2. If you travel a little and installation and registration of HBO can pay off only after a few years, then do not bother and do not install HBO.

For certified HBO installation centers
1. Be prepared for a temporary decrease in demand for the installation of HBO for economic reasons.
2. Expect an influx of customers to replace or inspect cylinders, restore documents, etc.
3. Be ready to assist clients in registering HBO under the new rules. The time is approaching when it will be illegal to install HBO without the permission of the traffic police (put on the application) and the conclusion of the preliminary examination.
For technical inspection operators
1. Be ready that control over the check by the operator of the technical inspection during the passage of maintenance of vehicles with LPG will be tightened - the presence and correctness of filling out documents for the examination of HBO and gas cylinders. Now, in pursuit of a client and for a reason great competition, technical inspection operators, with a few exceptions in certain major cities, practically this question is not checked.
For traffic police officers
1. Additional will appear. income, both during registration actions (turned a blind eye to the presence of HBO), and on the highway, especially at stationary posts, since “if changes are made to the design of the vehicle without the permission of the State Inspectorate for Road Safety, then the operation of such vehicles is prohibited.”
2. The load on the relevant departments of the traffic police will increase. Now the Certificate is issued by the traffic police of the subject of the federation, as a rule, one person is engaged. It is necessary either to increase the staff or transfer authority to the localities, to the district traffic police.
For insurance companies
1. An additional loophole will appear not to pay insurance in case of an accident (“You illegally made changes to the design, the operation of such vehicles is prohibited by law, and you violated the law and operated. And if you didn’t violate, didn’t drive illegally on such a vehicle, then there would be no an accident, and, consequently, an insured event). And the court will be on their side.
For stores selling HBO
1. The demand for the purchase of automobile cylinders and related components (mount, multivalve, etc.) will increase significantly.

The practice of traffic police in 2016. IN Samara region traffic police raids began. 02/03/2016 they stopped the car at the post, they checked the trunks of everyone in a row, they saw the cylinder - present the documents, he presents (installation in a certified center in Samara in October 2015, all new cylinder is new, passport, certificates, everything is as usual, they are for him - and where is the Certificate of conformity of the design of the vehicle with the changes made to its design to safety requirements, he - And what is it, they are a fine of 500 r and a requirement to prevent an administrative offense, in which: prohibition of operation - from 02/14/2016, 02/14/2016 g to submit a car to the traffic police, in case of failure to submit it, the registration will be canceled, if these requirements are not met, you may be fined from 500 to 1000 rubles, or arrested for up to 15 days!