Sati Casanova: "I'm not much interested in what's fashionable in a star party." Modern girls in search of love turn to various relationship coaches, psychologists, astrologers, psychics

Singer Sati Casanova is charm itself, and she has qualities - spontaneity, impulsiveness, whim enthusiasm ... And all this in moderation, everything is harmonious. In addition, in the interview, it turned out that Sati has a rich lexicon and a bright outlook. In an interview, the singer spoke about autumn longing, about working on herself, and also about the fact that she dreams of knitting clothes for her unborn baby with her own hands.

Sati, I know that your birthday is in October. Everyone perceives autumn differently: for some, this is a time of sadness. What is autumn for you?

For me, autumn is a harvest time - a time to gather stones, or rather, to reap the fruits of those seeds that were sown during spring and summer. I also have a slight sadness, because it is getting colder, my hands and feet begin to freeze. There is also a thin, consuming, somewhere deep inside scratching melancholy. This is a bright melancholy, I love her ..

And what kind of music do you prefer to yearn for?

I recently opened three wonderful radios at once - Orpheus, Classic and Radio Relax. Now at least get overwhelmed! Is there any song, preferably Russian-language, which is on this moment reflects your inner state of mind? Oh, such a question right off the bat... There are so many beautiful, creative songs. My song is by no means love suffering... I like: (sings)
"A ray of the golden sun, darkness was hidden by a veil ..."

This song, as far as I remember, is performed by a very passionate, emotional man. You probably just like it.

Oh yes, that passionate men like it, it's a fact ... As for the song, I like sunny, life-affirming compositions ...

You became the face of the CLEAR vita ABE line and starred in a commercial. Tell us what was interesting on the set?

I am very glad to cooperate with CLEAR vita ABE, because I like to learn something new in the field of personal care, I am interested in innovative approaches, I try new things, because for me it is extremely important appearance. In this case, the discovery for me was what great importance has a daily nourishment of the scalp for the beauty of the hair ... On the set, I liked absolutely everything, the team was amazing. I was struck by the professionalism of the people who worked with me - high, well-coordinated. And even more struck by the attitude towards me as an actress - careful, caring. I had my own masseuse! It's a dream! A wonderful Thai masseuse, such a chirping bird, kind, bright ... As soon as I left the frame and sat down to rest, she massaged my legs, shoulders, neck ...

Apparently, you tend to make big decisions. For example, I know that you have become a vegetarian. How did you decide to give up meat?

The decision came to me gradually. It all started with yoga. Apotom, at some point I realized that I had not eaten meat for a long time and, in general, I did not want to eat it. And later came a conscious attitude to this. I think that the body itself, in connection with yoga, came to the conclusion that it does not need meat at all.

Sati, you probably get a lot of compliments from strangers every day. What compliment do you remember the most?

My half an hour ago good friend Tabriz, esthete and music lover, a man who was brought up on classical music, sent me a long sms with rave reviews and squealed for half a minute. Then she sat down on the floor and thought. Well, now how to fit all this? I understand that he, of course, overestimated my rating, but on the other hand, a person of his upbringing and understanding of music cannot unfoundedly praise. In a word, this was one of the most important compliments for me - you are a real artist, you create, you create. And for me, this is really important.

It turns out that you are more pleased when you are praised as an artist, and not as a woman?

Certainly. I am pleased with the attention of men, enthusiastic looks ... But I am sure of my female attractiveness, so I don’t have to run around and look for confirmation of this everywhere.

Which man would you prefer? The one who is able to solve your problems, or the person with whom you have some kind of spiritual closeness, consonance. What's more important? I choose something in between. A man who has both. I know it's not easy to find one, but I believe it's possible. I have an idea about both the first situation and the second. I know that both of them lead to a dead end. But here the fundamental point is feelings. If a person is intended specifically for me, and I am for him, the rest does not matter.

Sati, do you agree that personal growth is about overcoming yourself?
Undoubtedly. No need to fight with someone, be cooler than someone. Be cooler than yourself!

When you are in last time overcame yourself?

I do it every day. Starting with emotions. I am a quick-tempered person, sometimes I want to tear and throw. Therefore for me crucial point self-improvement is about gaining self-control. There are people outwardly calm, but inside they are all bubbling, this leads to an explosion. I try to transform negative feelings into something bright. It is important to learn to be "here and now" - there is such an important and simple principle, to discard the importance of everything that happens, to include the "don't give a damn". This good way don't go out of your mind. When you, in spite of everything, do not lose your temper, this is overcoming.

Do you have any purely female hobbies?

Not yet, but I think that in time I will definitely do something like that, knitting or embroidery. Needlework is meditation for a woman. How many centuries, and even millennia, a woman has been needleworking! By needlework, I mean cooking, this is the most sacred process. I love to cook, but I do it rarely and by inspiration, when there is someone for someone ... When I get pregnant, I will definitely start needlework. Most likely, knitting is so cool, tying something to your baby with your own hand is just happiness.

Sati, what last time caused you vivid emotions?

Oh, I'll tell you now! Recently, a well-known Hollywood actor Til Schweiger…

Probably enough just to see it!

Oh yes, that's exactly what happened to me. Before I saw this actor with my own eyes, I strongly sympathized with him, he has such good energy He's just strong and real. When I saw him here, in my restaurant, I went up to say hello. He began to speak to me so sweetly and sincerely that I was simply subdued. Yes, conquered! I was overwhelmed with emotions!

Do you tend to take the initiative yourself if you like a man?

So, I will continue the story. I was so captivated by Til's charm that, frozen at the bar, I stood and squealed. The manager of the restaurant said: “Well, go ahead and give him your number!” I say, "No, I can't, I've never done that." He objected: “What do you mean, I can’t? Do you need it or don't you?" I murmured: "It is necessary!" He gave me a restaurant business card on which I wrote my number. mobile phone and took it to Tilya. It was one of those things that I didn't expect from myself. True, I have not yet received a call from Til, but I do not lose hope (laughs).

Is he not married?

Yes, apparently not anymore.

Popular Russian singer last year she married Italian photographer Stefano Tiozzo. In an interview with the site, Sati told how the first year of marriage and with a foreigner went, and revealed her own secrets family happiness.

What do you think is the most important thing in building strong relationships?

The most important thing is trust and respect. Love is often confused with passion, attraction, sex - all this is temporary. Real love requires deep work. This is not one year, it is based on respect and trust in each other.

What should you pay special attention to when choosing a man?

When I was younger, I paid attention to everything, but not to what I have now come to. Previously, these were beautiful words and throwing gestures in the eyes, and now I'm looking at real actions.

When I met my husband, then still the future, I imagined what it would be like to grow old with him, what it would be like to share life with him, the sweetest and most bitter moments. And I felt so good, I realized that this person will never let you down. What will happen to me with him, both in joy and in trouble, is good - and these are the most important factors when choosing. I guess I trusted him from the very beginning.

Women often complain that society and family put a kind of pressure on them, connected with ideas about how to live. Conditionally: before the age of 30, get married and build a career, before 40 have a child, and so on. Have you ever experienced something similar?

I myself have come out of these standards so well, especially considering that I come from the Caucasus, where they get married and have children quite early. If you do not have time in those time frames, then they immediately sound the alarm, panic, and so on. My parents suffered the most, because I got married at the age of 34, they were worried about 25-26, almost 10 years different stages. I also panicked with them, then calmed down.

But now is a special time when all standards, all patterns are being destroyed and there are such incredible women who built themselves, their careers, comprehended themselves before 50, and suddenly at 50 they decided to go into relationships, marriage, have children. Everything became possible, I think it's great.

Before marriage, did you have to answer the question “Why is she so beautiful and not married?”. How did they answer?

And now people are so “delicate” that they allow themselves such questions as: “Why don’t you have a baby?”, “When will you give birth? Old already! and so on and so forth. I answer rather harshly, making it clear that this does not concern anyone. To all standards public opinion I've been indifferent for a long time. At first I was very dependent, worried, upset, and then I didn’t care. It became important to me only what I feel, what I want, how I feel. Understand correctly, this is not selfish, I just hear my heart, and it knows the answer, how I should live and act, better than anyone else. Even the closest people: mothers, fathers, children, husbands - cannot know the way your heart knows.

Modern girls in search of love turn to various relationship coaches, psychologists, astrologers, psychics. Do you think any of this can really help? Have you had a similar experience?

Yes, I know how modern girls are often addicted to going to palmists, some kind of mediums, and so on. I would say that you need to be extremely vigilant, because such people can do a lot of harm, even without wanting to. It's just the way the person and the system are designed. First, when we go to someone to peep our future, we express distrust of the creator and the divine plan. And this can already be called a sin, betrayal or cowardice - whatever you like.

I personally welcome trips only to real talented and educated astrologers or numerologists, because this is not a prediction, this is a kind of diagnosis. Or is it a specific card that can give you direction. An astrologer can help by seeing that in such and such a period there is a high probability of certain events, and forewarned means forearmed. They tell you that it will snow outside tomorrow and you will put on a warm hat. But I strongly do not recommend contacting mediums and soothsayers, because a person, even with the highest mediumistic abilities, can only see a fragment of the future, which is obviously doomed to failure.

What advice would you give to single girls who are looking for their soul mate?

I advise only to believe and develop confidence in God, who knows best what and when we should meet and something will happen. At the moment when I relaxed, I said “God, I trust you and I will no longer try myself, like crazy, crazy, to try to draw and sculpt something from what was,” as in that song. And at the moment when I really relaxed, all the wonderful things in my life happened.

What qualities do you value most in people, and what qualities do you consider unacceptable?

Sincerity, the ability to forgive, the ability to admit their mistakes. The qualities that are hard for me to accept are exactly the opposite: insincerity, inability to forgive and admit my mistakes, pettiness in the same place.

How difficult was it for you to build a relationship with a person of a different mentality?

So far, everything is fine, there are no difficulties due to the mentality, at first it scared me, but so far there are no difficulties on the way in life, let's see how it will be further. It's only been a year so it's too early to say.

How are family responsibilities distributed in your marriage? Are there any obligatory joint rituals, traditions?

We do quite a lot of things together, we don't have such a clear distribution. The only thing is that I always try to cook in the family, so that feminine energy nursed. I like to take care of, sometimes, when I don’t have time, my husband cooks, happens to do laundry. The order in the house, of course, is on me. Shopping, tickets, travel, hotels and more are always on it. Let's see further.

In an interview with HELLO! singer Sati Casanova for the first time spoke about the fact that she was going to get married. The chosen one of the singer was the Italian photographer Stefano Tiozzo. Introducing the couple's love story.

The news that Sati Kazanova was getting married has sounded more than once - however, always at the level of rumors. But now everything is serious. A man appeared nearby, with whom Sati really intends to connect her life, and now she will be connected with Italy - the country of the sea and the sun. But where to get them in rainy Moscow to recreate this atmosphere in a photo shoot? We decided to try it, and it looks like we succeeded. After all, the main thing is the mood. And now Sati's is exceptionally elevated.

A few days after the interview, she was waiting for a meeting with her beloved man, with whom she would soon play a wedding. The history of their relationship is full of mystical signs and symbols, to which the singer attaches great importance.

Sati, are you on the verge of important changes in your life?

Yes it's true. And I decided to tell about it myself - so that the news would sound firsthand, because for last years my personal life is overgrown with too many rumors and gossip. I'm going to get married. Although I don't quite believe it myself. It would seem that every woman has a "built-in program" of unconditional readiness for marriage. I'm probably somewhat non-standard in this regard. Whenever I was close to the wedding, I began to have disturbing dreams, all sorts of signs arose - as if God was taking me away from this step. Apparently the wrong people were around. Now everything is so easy, joyful and somehow childish! I am almost 35, and the condition is like that of a 15-year-old. For the first time, I am not afraid of anything and do not complicate anything. Everything is simple and clear. The heart knows - this is the man.

Who is he?

His name is Stefano - with an emphasis on the letter E. He is a photographer, Italian. As one of my friends admitted, she was always sure that I would marry a foreigner. And I couldn't even guess. She believed that such marriages were doomed - because of the different mentality, outlook on life, language barriers. Of course, I don’t know how everything will turn out for us, and I don’t want to guess, but at the moment absolutely nothing is stopping us.

How did you find each other?

We met less than a year back. It happened in Germany, at the wedding of my friend Marina Missbach and brother Stefano - Cristiano Tiozzo, famous pianist. The ceremony was carried out in the Indian-Vedic style, with appropriate rituals and rituals. But, despite the amazing beauty and fabulous atmosphere around, I was in a skeptical mood. By that time, I was disappointed in the relationship, I sat and thought: “Why all this performance?! People still don’t know how to love and understand each other for real.”

The first person I saw after the bride and groom was Stefano, who sat next to them and took pictures. I remember a sudden interest in me - who is this guy? Although I usually do not pay attention to strangers. Many friends of Marina and Cristiano performed, I also sang a few songs. And I noticed how Stefano was looking at me - a look of study and admiration. He did not know anything about me, except that I am a singer from Russia, a friend of Marina. He said, "You have a beautiful voice." I nodded back, "Thank you." Then he confessed: "Then you looked at me with such a condescending mockery - they say, also to me, an original compliment." According to him, I seemed to him an arrogant arrogant. And he made a similar impression on me. As it turned out later, Stefano was as skeptical as I was about women and about marriage. He also got burned. Apparently, that's why we didn't see each other that evening.

And when did you see it?

This was preceded by certain signs. There was a moment when Swami, the spiritual master and brahmin who conducted the wedding ceremonies, was distributing gifts from the bride and groom to everyone. People stood in line, approached, bowed to him and received a gift. Stefano and I ended up in this queue next to each other. And while we stood together for about five minutes, three people passing by whispered to me: "Listen, you look great with him! Pay attention to him." After receiving my gift, I sat next to Swami on the left side. Stefano sat on the right. And suddenly Swami, smiling slyly, pointed to it and raised his thumb. And then he drew a heart in the air. Then I thought that everyone around me had definitely gone crazy. And she laughed. This is where our communication with Stefano ended.

We met a few months later - at a party where Marina invited me. That's when Stefano and I started talking and became genuinely interested in each other. We walked a lot, chatted, and mutual sympathy became already obvious. I was impressed by his humor, his way of thinking.

What language did you communicate in?

In English, as now. Although I plan to learn Italian, he has begun to study Russian and already speaks very well. He says: "I have a serious incentive: I want to learn the language before the wedding so that I can communicate with your parents." He does it for them! He speaks with such a touching Italian accent, it's so funny and sweet. In my opinion he does little feat- every free minute he sits down and learns Russian.

At what point did you start to feel like a couple?

During the second meeting, I discovered how extraordinary he sees the world. I began to look closely and realized that he was also infinitely interested in how I think, how I live. So there was a mutual attraction. We exchanged phone numbers. Soon Stefano was going on a working trip to India, to the Holi festival in the city of Vrindavan - I was there twice, and it made an indelible impression on me. Stefano is a landscape photographer, shoots landscapes, traveled almost all the most Beautiful places in the world. He is amazingly talented and has thousands of fans who love his work and follow him around the world on expedition trips.

Having learned about his trip to India, whose culture I adore, I immediately made him promise to send me his the best photos. Stefano sent pictures every day. Some of the shots brought me to tears of admiration. I was shocked! I guess at that moment I was surprised to find that I fell in love. In an Italian? Photographer? In such a short time? It's unreal! Returning to Italy, Stefano offered to talk on Skype. When we first contacted, I fell into a stupor. I saw the same thing happen to him. He said, "If you're worried as much as I'm worried, or even a hundredth part, it gives me hope that you feel about the same as I do." I say: "Oh yes! I'm just as worried as you are, and maybe even more." At first they communicated with such half hints, and then they began to talk very frankly, sincerely, without any coquetry. I honestly admitted that I had and still have certain fears about relationships, and he told me about his own. A week later, it seemed to us that we had known each other for a hundred years. Our conversations took 3-5 hours daily, we just couldn't stop.

Sati Kazanova in the photo shoot HELLO!

Like this virtual communication turned into reality?

In April I had a concert in Geneva. Now I travel a lot around Europe to all kinds of ethnic festivals with my project Sati Ethnica. It's much more interesting than my pop projects, but it's not commercially successful yet. Stefano, a little embarrassed, asked: "How would you look if I come to you in Geneva?" I agreed. And again we felt completely natural next to each other, everything was transparent and understandable. Then the relationship began in earnest. A few weeks later we spent four magical days in Riga, wandering around the city, talking a lot. For the first time, I felt that there was a person nearby who did not want to change me in the slightest. And I take it for what it is. All previous relationships, unfortunately, were based on the fact that "everything is cool, but I would correct this." And sometimes - as in the song: "I blinded him from what was." We women are often carried away by our own fantasy. I always made the same mistake - I saw in a person what is not there, but I really wanted to see it.

Many will subscribe to these words.

And then I firmly decided to look at things without rose-colored glasses. And as soon as another illusion crawled up to me, I immediately discarded it and asked Stefano directly. And I always got a clear concrete answer. I didn't have to think of anything, I saw what kind of person he was... Yes, we've known each other for less than a year... But, as it turned out, it's not about timing. And it seems to me that if everything happens like this (snaps fingers), then this is real.

How did he propose to you?

Do you know his parents?

Certainly. We met at the wedding of Marina and Cristiano. And during one family dinner, Stefano solemnly announced: “Dear mom and dad, I have news for you. Remember that beautiful girl named Sati? We have love with her and very serious relationship". Mom exclaimed: "Of course, yes, I remember her. Bella! Bellissima! But how are we going to communicate with her, she doesn’t know Italian! "Later, I promised her that I would learn the language for her sake. And I will do it. Just like Stefano learns Russian for my parents. Especially if we are talking about marriage, then, I believe, it will also go about children, if God wills. But this is the culture of my future husband! I'm going FOR my husband. I need to know the language more than he does.

Have you already informed his family of your decision?

Yes, sure. I had a few free days, and Stefano invited me to his place in Italy, in Turin. He said that he wanted to get to know mom and dad better and tell them the news about the wedding. They live outside the city, Stefano's house is next door to his parents. He met me, showed me the city, fed me a homemade dinner. He made me the tastiest gluten free pasta I love. He added the pesto that his mother made, as well as basil and tomatoes that she had grown. I stayed there for a few days, and everything was incredibly sincere. How my mother tried to set the family table in honor of my arrival! Cristiano, Marina and Stefano are vegetarians, like me, but my parents are not. The table was bursting with an incredible number of vegetarian dishes, the brothers vied with each other to tell and demonstrate the dialects of various regions of Italy, we laughed a lot. All in all, we had a great evening. And all this time Stefano was pushing me under the table: "Come on! Come on!" With his help, I learned a few phrases in Italian that sound something like this: "Dear mom and dad! We want to tell you important news. Stefano and I love each other and want to get married. We ask for your blessing."

By the end of dinner, Stefano was already looking at me anxiously and inquiringly, but I still did not dare. I felt my heart pounding and I knew I couldn't do it. Whispered in his ear, "Listen, I can't. Please do it yourself." And he got up and began to speak, Marina translated his words to me. Stefano's father speaks good English. He said: "If you love each other so much that you are ready to face any difficulties, if you believe in each other - go. Feel free! Here is my blessing to you, I will always support you. If you are in doubt, it is better to stop ". Stefano and I exclaimed: "We believe! We love!" He hugged us and said to me, "From now on, you are my daughter. I accept you in my heart and in my family." I cried, of course.

And how did your parents perceive the future son-in-law?

When they found out about the wedding, they were incredibly happy! They don’t know each other personally yet, but as soon as Stefano arrives in Russia, we will go to them. Of course, they had already seen him, we all talked together via Skype. He even learned some funny phrases in Kabardian. They immediately liked Stefano very much. Maybe because they saw how I glow with happiness, how calm and confident I became. Of course, some formal things remained ahead - a ring, a knee, petals. (Laughs.)

Where will the wedding take place?

Until we finally decide. We are in the process of working on this issue. We compared our work schedules and realized that we would not be able to do it before autumn.

Planning your later life, did you and Stefano come to some kind of common decision?

For now, we will live in two countries. Stefano says this: "My work does not tie me to any particular place. I can go anywhere in the world from Moscow just like from Italy. And it is important for you to be in Russia, here is your career and your life." I don’t know Italian, I don’t know how to drive a car - without this it will be very difficult for me in Italy. We must prepare. Therefore, at first we will live here in Russia. I understand what Stefano sacrifices, leaving his friends and his hobbies, but he is ready to go for it.

And yet it is impossible to get around the issue of differences in cultures and religions...

Stefano is a Catholic, I am a Muslim. We cannot have a church marriage. To do this, some of us would have to change faith. We also discussed this. But both of us are absolutely satisfied with everything, we respect each other's faith, and each will remain with his own. As for national traditions, as it turned out, our cultures are very similar. Both Italians and Kabardians have developed nepotism, reverence for parents, and love for children. We are equally emotional and love to discuss everything verbosely and loudly, while gesticulating violently. Even our kitchens are similar in many ways, surprisingly. So, if Providence brought Stefano and me together, it did for me the best choice of all possible.

Photographer's assistant: Pavel Notchenko. Producer, stylist: Yuka Vizhgorodskaya. Stylist assistant: Alina Frost. Makeup: Victoria Schneider. Hair: Anfisa Kiryanova/Redken. We are grateful to Yulia Tikhomirova, to CEO Royal Bar, for helping organize the shoot

After cardinal changes in her life, Sati Casanova told OK! about creativity own choice and who inspires her.

Photo: Vladimir Vasilchikov Sati Casanova

A real beauty. With a sonorous and such a playful surname. However, one should not think that the life of Sati Kazanova is a continuous “Thousand and One Nights”. Before becoming the All-Russian Scheherazade, the girl from Nalchik had to go through thorns. And having made her way into the stars, she decided ... to start all over again.

Interviewed by Dmitry Tulchinsky

Right now, Sati's fate hangs in the balance. To be or not to be, hit or miss? Having announced her departure from the Fabrika group and the start of a solo career, she put everything on one card.

“It won’t work - I’ll sell everything and leave for Bali”

In general, I was wildly tired, I had not slept for two days, the first thing she complained about was as soon as we “landed” at a table in one of the Moscow cafes.

- Well, excuse me, Sati, I'll torment you a little. So you started a crazy life?
- I have last six months such, since she decided to leave the "Factory" and start a solo career. All this is connected with a very strong tension: physical, moral ...

- Maybe you already regret what you did?
- No, you just need to get used to reality, learn to rest, relax. Don't take everything so personally. I think that in about a year everything will settle down, and I will feel like a fish in water. But for now, to be honest, I'm a little worried.

- Thoughts about solo career long time ago?
- About five years ago. Actually, I've always dreamed about it. Even when I got into a group, thoughts sometimes arose: this is not mine, I should sing alone. But soon I realized that I was an “ungrateful sheep” and I had no right to even think about it. Because, honestly, few people are as lucky as me.

Ambition, then, is to blame. Well, and the age, perhaps, - up to 30, the “factory girl”, probably, didn’t want to jump?
- Of course, you are absolutely right. I have determined a period for myself, after which, what is called either-or. Either there or nowhere. In addition, I am a terrible maximalist, I try not to exchange for handouts of fate, I do not agree to everything ready. I don't blame people who say: "You go slower - you will continue", "Risk is the lot of fools." But I myself believe that risk is a noble cause, to go with the flow is not for me. And now I'm swimming against the current.

Indeed, on the other hand - where to rock the boat? The group is known, everything is already adjusted, adjusted, tour schedule scheduled for years to come. And then a solitary voyage, and it is not known what will come of it. Were there many doubts about this?
- I'll tell you my thoughts. I am so confident that I made the right move. That it should be like this, and not otherwise. I am so convinced that sitting quietly and waiting for the weather by the sea is not mine. Well, I have no right to do this in relation to myself and to Heaven, no matter how pathetic it sounds. And I didn’t think about any strategic things and consequences at all ... Although Igor Matvienko still tells me: “Well, do you understand the degree of risk?”

- Is there no way back? He didn't say: try it, it won't work - will you come back?
- I can't even think of that. Life, of course, makes its own adjustments... But, you know, once, due to my impulsiveness, I even lashed out at one of my friends: I can’t realize it - yes, I’ll leave with a clear conscience at all ...

- Where?
- Yes, nowhere! She said: "I will sell all my property here and go to Bali." Once I rested there and fell in love with these places, I just dream of them ...

- Well, in any case, you will not be left for nothing: it will turn out - wonderful, no - a heavenly life awaits in Bali.
- Yes. That is, I don’t think like this: oh, if it doesn’t happen, then everything is lost, a catastrophe, I will die ... In any case, I will not kill myself.

“It’s unpleasant to remember your former self”

- When you arrived in Moscow, how old were you?
- 17.

- WITH with a light heart parents let go?
- How can you let a 17-year-old child go to Moscow with a light heart? Moreover, we had only one friend here who promised to help, and, by the way, kept his promise, for which many thanks to him. That is, I was practically going nowhere, into the unknown. She was a self-confident girl, but she was very afraid. She cried and despaired. I remember the feeling of insane loneliness experienced for the first time. I'll tell you how it was. Only two months in Moscow, in October I turn 18. I already had some acquaintances in my studies, but I haven’t made close friends with anyone yet. I come to the institute. On the one hand, joyful, and on the other, so sad: it's my birthday, but no one knows. Meet the guys: "Hi." And to everyone: “And today is my birthday!” - "Oh, congratulations!" - "Thank you!"...

- How was it noted?
- After studying, I bought myself a bottle of champagne, a small cake. She came home sad and sad. Sat on the sofa. Tiny apartment, I'm alone. And I got so lonely! That's when I first realized what loneliness is. I'm sitting here drinking this champagne. And I cry. Suddenly my mother calls. "Ma-ma-a! .." - I could not even restrain myself - I so wanted someone to take pity on me. She heard that I was roaring, and she also began to cry: “What is this Moscow to you? I beg you - come back, do not torture yourself and us ... "And then dad picked up the phone:" Well, stop the hysteria. Decision is made? Did you get on the path? Forward!" And for these words I am very grateful to my father.

- And there were thoughts: everything, tomorrow I pack my things and leave?
- There was everything. I thought I was crying. And when you cry a lot, you become so weak. But the worst thing is when you wake up at dawn, at five or six in the morning. Sleep in no eye. And - fear. It binds the heart, freezes all the insides. And so for a week, two, three. Can you imagine how exhausting?

- Fear for what?
- Because of all these experiences: it will work - it will not work, leave - stay ... Or here's a banal example. A week before paying for the apartment - no money. And you wake up in the middle of the night, lie down, and you can’t even breathe properly from a lump in your throat, you just die: it’s scary, creepy. And then you walk around broken all day.

- I know you went through a sea of ​​castings, tests. Where would you be if you were lucky?
- I almost became a member of the group " Love stories”- I already had a contract in my hands, I rehearsed with the girls for a month. Then I went to the casting in the musical "Chicago". But they told me: you look very young, it does not suit us.

- Did Philip Bedrosovich personally watch?
- No, I think Philip selected from those who had already been selected ... I hung around everywhere, went everywhere, tried to get somewhere. Once I even got the number of the late Yuri Aizenshpis, called him, I said: “Hello, I am talented, young, beautiful. You must listen to me." And, you know, he invited me. After listening, he said, really: "Well, there will be money - come in."

In general, that time: in some ways difficult, but in some ways romantic, free - how do you remember it now? Was it great, was it terrible?
- No, it wasn't great. Made many mistakes. It is from this fear and despair. Such steps, such thoughts I allowed myself! It's very personal, I don't want to go into details. And speaking generally, then my character was simply the worst. She developed in herself such an attitude to life, such as: "whoever got up first - that and slippers", "to live with wolves - howl like a wolf." And even in the Fabrika group for the first few years she was like that, she believed that one had to be impudent, arrogant, put oneself up. Now I remember my former self - it becomes unpleasant.

- What actions of that time are you now ashamed of?
- Oh, there was a case, about four years ago, when in Domodedovo the head of the customs service, a wonderful intelligent young man, shouted very rudely. We flew with a friend from Germany, I was sleepy. In addition, I was in a hurry to the concert, I had to go there right from the plane. We were asked: “What are you carrying?” - “Yes, we had shopping!” - I answer with ambition. "For what amount?" - "Three thousand euros." - “Do you know that if more than one and a half, you need to fill out a declaration?” And such a hysteria began! She simply covered the poor young man up and down, even allowed herself obscene expressions. How can you not be ashamed of it?

- What was it, star disease?
- No - just nerves, psychosis. Breakdown. I didn't get enough sleep, I'm in a bad mood...

"I don't want to be a femme fatale anymore"

- Now you're also sleepy...
Now I would sit down and cry. Yes, I'm completely different now. Maybe because she became a vegetarian - a lot has changed in her character in connection with this.

- But what about the Kabardian lamb skewers?
- Well, dad scolds me a little for this, he says: you've become too thin, you don't have a face, you're exhausted. And for the last six months I have been really exhausted physically and mentally, I think meat will not help me.

- Your surname comes from the word "cauldron", as I understand it. And do you know how to cook?
- Actually, my last name is not from the word "cauldron." I am not the most masterful culinary specialist, perhaps, but some simple meals I can cook. Satsivi, of course, I can’t master, but the chicken in sour cream sauce frying is not a problem.

And what about the more familiar to us - "Casanova", with an emphasis on the penultimate syllable? I think it's closer to you.
- For better or worse, yes. I won’t lie to myself and you, there is such a thing in my character. I used to be terribly proud - oh, I'm such a coquette, such a coquette, a femme fatale. Now I understand that these are not the qualities that need to be emphasized. Yes, swagger, played. And she played. I don't want to be a heartbreaking femme fatale anymore.

- Broke a lot?
- Not to say that a lot. I just had, as they say, rarely, but aptly, every time everything is serious. But the feeling of guilt still gnaws... How can I tell you so as not to offend anyone? I already felt the weakness of this man. And the strength of another. And when such a moment comes, I can no longer be held ... No, those were not trophies, like the peasants, you know: the first night happened - and “dosvidos”. I always believed that this was the last time. But when the passion came to an end, the veil fell off, and eyes were opened to many things. I understood that this man was not strong enough for me, he was not what I imagined for myself. And then I will either be unhappy myself, or I will destroy him. You see, if a woman does not admire, does not bow before a man, then sooner or later she will destroy him.

- Have you had an unhappy love? So that you do not leave a man, but he leaves you?
- Unless at school ... A boy came to us. So beautiful and unusual. The girls gasped. But they all sighed to themselves, and I said: girls, he is mine. I wrote him a note: "I love you, just don't tell anyone." And he, the bastard, immediately, at the next change, began to point his finger at me: they say, this one. Oh, you, I think so-and-so! But for three years she suffered, seeing him first from one side, then from the other ...

- Sati, you are 27 years old. Probably all the girlfriends in Nalchik have been married for a long time, gave birth to children ...
- Am I an old maid?

- Not that ... But relatives are not outraged?
Came home last summer for my younger sister's wedding...

- So you can't! According to Muslim customs, the elder sister should get married first.
- No, if the parents and the older sister herself do not mind, then it is possible. And relatives do not bother me much, understanding, so to speak, the non-standard situation. “Well, of course you have a job...” the aunts say, as if excusing me for an imperfect marriage. And dad and mom, although they are worried, are encouraging: it’s okay, and at 30, and at 35 they create families and give birth, the main thing is that you be happy.

- How many times have you been offered a hand and a heart?
- Not so often, in fact ... You know, my first serious love happened at the age of 15. The most pure and romantic - with walks under the moon and with everything that is described in romance novels. He then went into the army, against this background we parted, but that's not the point. One day I dreamed that I was marrying him. I woke up crying, in a cold sweat. That thought horrified me so much. So I do not suffer from the fact that I am not married ... There are, of course, difficult periods. I remember one such, when I so painfully wanted love, I was looking for it so much that I even peered into the hall from the stage: “Well, maybe you? No, not you…” This is ridiculous, of course.
But a woman is always looking for love ... By the way, this topic was recently discussed with Ksyusha Sobchak. I said that a woman's happiness lies in being a wife, a mother. Ksyusha replies: well, what should I do if I don’t have such criteria for happiness. “Is it better,” she asks, “to be a well-groomed, polished, tanned, fit old woman who has achieved everything, or a plump granny mowing the lawn to the laughter of her grandchildren? I haven't decided yet..."

- What is closer to you?
- This is just the question, you can turn on the fantasy. A well-groomed, polished rich old woman inside can be dried up by loneliness and anger. A chubby old lady can mow the lawn to the laughter of her grandchildren, and at the same time think: oh, my life has passed, I haven’t done anything. So I don’t want either one or the other, in general I am against extremes. If I am lucky enough to meet such a man with whom I will be absolutely free, with whom I will have the opportunity to develop. In huge letters I will write this word: DEVELOP-VI-VAT-SIA ...

- Where are these found?
“To tell the truth, I hope I have. But no more words...